Poe alternatives: multi-model AI apps without the points meter
The Morse teamPublished Facts checked 10 min read
The best Poe alternatives for people leaving Poe, Quora's AI app (not the Path of Exile game), are Morse, ChatHub, OpenRouter's chatroom, Duck.ai, Venice, and TypingMind. Each puts several AI models in one place without Poe's points meter, and each keeps your chat history on your device by default rather than on the company's servers.
We read Poe's plans page, terms of sale, terms of service, help center, privacy policy, Privacy Center, and model list on November 4, 2026, then each alternative's pricing and privacy pages the same day. Poe deserves credit for one thing up front. It shows a bot's point rate before you send, and each message's info shows what it cost. Duck.ai, by comparison, promises its Pro plan "2x higher usage limits than Plus" without saying what those limits are.
Poe alternatives at a glance
As of November 4, 2026. Each cell for another app comes from the page linked in that app's section below.
| App | Best for | How it meters you | Free plan | Paid from | Where your history is kept |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Poe | Group chats, and video and music bots (Poe) | Points per message, priced bot by bot | Daily points; Poe doesn't publish the number | $4.99 a month for 10,000 points a day (Poe) | On Poe's systems (Poe) |
| Morse | Everyday models at a flat price, with a privacy mode per chat | Unlimited Pro models; credits for frontier models | 15 messages a day, no card | Pro, $19 a month ($17 billed yearly) | In your browser, encrypted |
| ChatHub | Up to 6 models side by side | Queries per month, by model tier | Free to start, limits not stated | Pro, $19 a month ($14.99 billed yearly) | In your browser, per its policy |
| OpenRouter chatroom | Paying model makers' list prices | Credits, with a 5.5% fee when you buy them | 50 free-model requests a day | Pay as you go | On your device |
| Duck.ai | GPT and Claude on a free plan | Usage limits it doesn't put numbers on | GPT-6 Luna, Claude 4.5 Haiku, and others | Plus, $9.99 a month | On your device, unless you opt out |
| Venice | Unlimited text prompts on Pro | Prompts and images per day | 10 text prompts a day | Pro, $18 a month | On your device |
| TypingMind | Using your own API keys | Your providers' own API bills | None; you buy a license | One-time license | On your device, unless you turn on cloud sync |
How do Poe points work?
Every message spends points, and the number depends on the model and how much text it reads and writes. Poe's FAQ says each bot shows "the number of points required to send a message," which can be a fixed price per image or "a variable number based on how much text it reads and writes," and that Poe shows "the approximate cost of pre-purchasing those points at a rate of $30 per 1M points" (Poe). Free users get points each day that reset after 24 hours and don't roll over. Poe's pages don't say how many.
Here are Poe's five plans as its plans page listed them on November 4, 2026, with the message estimates the page gives for each (Poe):
| Points | Billed monthly | Billed yearly | Rollover up to | GPT-5.5 messages, Poe's estimate | Claude-Opus-4.7 messages, Poe's estimate |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 10,000 a day | $4.99 | $49.99 | None listed | 210 | 90 |
| 660,000 a month | $19.99 | $199.99 | 1.5 million | 530 | 230 |
| 1.65 million a month | $49.99 | $499.99 | 3.5 million | 1,300 | 580 |
| 3.3 million a month | $99.99 | $999.99 | 8.5 million | 2,600 | 1,100 |
| 8.25 million a month | $249.99 | $2,499.99 | 25 million | 6,500 | 2,900 |
Divide the 660,000-point plan by Poe's estimates and a GPT-5.5 message comes to about 1,250 points, roughly 4 cents at Poe's $30 per million. A Claude-Opus-4.7 message comes to about 2,900 points, roughly 9 cents. That's our arithmetic from Poe's own figures, and the real cost of a message moves with its length.
The monthly plans buy points at almost exactly the add-on rate. At $19.99 a month for 660,000 points, that plan works out to $30.29 per million, against $30 per million for add-on points. Only yearly billing, which Poe marks "SAVE 17%," and the $4.99 daily plan bring the rate down. That fits what Poe's API documentation says: "Our intent in pricing these points is to charge the same amount for model access that underlying model providers charge" (Poe).
The estimates also lag the catalog. The plans page counts messages for GPT-5.5 and Claude-Opus-4.7, while Poe's Explore page lists GPT-6-Astra and Claude-Opus-5.5 near the top, so the plans page doesn't tell you what the newest models cost.
Why do people leave Poe?
Four things on Poe's own pages make the case for moving.
Long chats cost more. Poe's "Auto-manage context" setting trims how much history goes to the bot. Turn it off and Poe warns it "may use up a lot more points." Memory "may use slightly more points per message," and temporary chats "still use compute points like a normal chat" (Poe).
Unused points disappear. Poe's terms of sale say that unless a plan says otherwise, "points do not rollover to the next month or billing period," and access to subscriber benefits "(including any unused points) will cease upon your Subscription termination date." Points are "non-transferable and non-refundable" (Poe).
A shared plan has no per-person limit. In a shared subscription, each member "can individually use up to 100% of the subscriber's points." Poe's Purchases FAQ says the only way to limit a member is to remove them (Poe).
Your chats stay with Quora. Poe keeps your history on its own servers, where Memory and some third-party bots can reach it; we go through who sees what in is Poe private.
Which Poe alternative gives you the most for $20 a month?
It depends on whether you want a meter or a flat rate. Poe sells points at close to the model maker's price, so a $20 plan covers a few hundred messages to a frontier model. The alternatives meter differently.
- Morse Pro, $19 a month, includes unlimited use of its Pro models, among them Claude Sonnet 5.5, which Poe sells by the point. Frontier models draw on 250 credits a month, and Max, at $49 a month, adds 5,500 credits a month (worth $55) and higher rate limits.
- ChatHub Pro, $19 a month, counts queries instead of points: 1,500 a month on advanced models such as "GPT-5, Gemini 3, Claude 4.5 and more," and 10,000 on basic models such as DeepSeek and Kimi (ChatHub). Its Unlimited plan, $39 a month or $24.99 billed yearly, removes both caps and adds 10,000 credits a month.
- Venice Pro, $18 a month, gives "unlimited text prompts and 1,000 images per day," plus 100 credits a month for video, music, and premium models (Venice).
- Duck.ai Pro, $19.99 a month, adds Claude Opus and GPT-5.6 Sol, with "higher reasoning effort" and double the Plus plan's usage limits (DuckDuckGo).
- OpenRouter works like Poe's add-on points with no subscription. "Inference is billed at the provider's list price," and OpenRouter's fee, 5.5% on its Standard plan, is charged when you buy credits (OpenRouter).
Where does each hub keep your chat history?
Poe keeps it on its own systems, and every alternative here keeps it on your device by default, as the last column of the table above shows. Duck.ai also lets you opt out of saving recent chats at all (DuckDuckGo).
A copy on your device doesn't follow you to another one, while Poe's Memory "syncs across all your devices automatically" (Poe). T3 Chat, Kagi Assistant, and other hubs are compared on the same question in T3 Chat alternatives.
How do you leave Poe without losing chats or points?
Plan the timing, and save your chats by hand. None of the five articles in Poe's help center describes a way to download them, so copy the ones you want to keep first. Then:
- Spend your points first. Unused points end with the subscription, and if you delete your account, "your access to points terminates immediately" (Poe).
- Cancel a day early. The terms of sale say "you must cancel your subscription on the day before your next recurring billing date," and fees are non-refundable outside Poe's refund policy (Poe). If you subscribed in the iPhone or Android app, cancel through Apple or Google.
- Clear Memory, then delete. Memory and a linked Quora account each need a step of their own before you delete Poe, which we walk through in is Poe private.
1. Morse: many models, no points, history in your browser
Poe charges each message at close to the model maker's price, and it keeps every chat on Quora's servers, where Memory and some third-party bots can reach it, while its privacy policy lets Poe share your hashed email with ad partners (Poe). Morse is built differently on both counts.
Morse puts over 30 models, open and closed, in one account, from OpenAI, Anthropic, xAI, Z.ai, DeepSeek, Moonshot AI, Qwen, and others, with Chat, Characters, and Studio for images. Pro is $19 a month ($17 billed yearly) with unlimited Pro text and image models, so a long Claude Sonnet 5.5 thread costs the same as a short one. Frontier models draw on 250 credits a month. Your chat history is stored in your browser, encrypted, and locked when you sign out, and Morse's servers don't keep messages or log what you write. Morse doesn't train AI on your content, sell your data, or show ads, so there's no bot-by-bot training rule to check and no hashed email going to ad partners.
Pick a privacy mode for each chat:
- Anonymous, for the GPT, Claude, and Gemini chats you spent Poe points on. Morse sends your message under its own account, without your account, email, or IP address. The provider sees the message without knowing it's you, and may keep it for a limited time to check for abuse, under its own policy.
- Private, for everyday use of open-weight models and Grok. New chats start here. Morse has zero data retention agreements with its inference, search, and other providers, so they keep nothing; where a provider confirms zero retention on each reply, Morse checks it and refuses a reply that doesn't.
- E2EE, for the chats you'd never hand to a bot maker. Your browser verifies the secure enclave's hardware attestation and seals the message for that enclave alone, so Morse's servers pass along ciphertext they can't read. It rests on the enclave hardware and attestation working as designed, runs open-weight models without web search or image generation, and comes with Pro.
Your history is kept in your browser, so clearing the browser or deleting your account deletes your chats for good, and Morse can't recover them. Copy anything you need to keep. Because we don't store chats, we usually have very little to give authorities.
2. ChatHub
ChatHub is built for comparison. Its plans let you "Chat with up to 6 chatbots simultaneously," with web access, file uploads, and iOS and Android apps (ChatHub). Its privacy policy says "All your chat history is exclusively saved locally in your browser," that chat data isn't used for AI training, and that uploaded PDFs are deleted 24 hours after upload (ChatHub). That policy is dated March 10, 2023, older than features the pricing page now lists, such as sharing conversations, so it may not describe them.
3. OpenRouter's chatroom
OpenRouter has no subscription and lists 600+ models for paid accounts, plus 25+ free ones capped at 50 requests a day, or 1,000 once you've bought $10 of credits (OpenRouter). Its privacy settings and provider rules are covered in T3 Chat alternatives.
4. Duck.ai
Duck.ai's free plan covers several well-known models. They include GPT-6 Luna, Claude 4.5 Haiku, Mistral Small 4, and GPT-5.4 mini; Plus, $9.99 a month, adds GPT-5.6 Terra and Claude Sonnet 5.5 (DuckDuckGo). DuckDuckGo says it removes your IP address before a prompt reaches the provider, and that providers must delete it "at most within 30 days" and can't train on it (DuckDuckGo). How Duck.ai and Morse differ is in Morse vs Duck.ai.
5. Venice
Venice keeps history on your device and puts its TEE and E2EE models on Pro only (Venice). Its privacy modes and model list are compared with Morse's in Venice AI alternatives.
6. TypingMind
TypingMind sells a "lifetime license" for a chat app that runs on your own API keys and keeps data on your device by default (TypingMind), so you pay each provider directly at its own rates. Its sync and license options are in T3 Chat alternatives.
T3 Chat is another hub people weigh against Poe. Its pricing page returned a "too many requests" error when we tried it on November 4, so we've left it out of the table; its usage buckets are explained in T3 Chat alternatives.
How we compared them
We read every page linked above on November 4, 2026 and took each company at its written word. Poe's message estimates come from its plans page, and the cost per message is our own division of Poe's figures. We didn't run tests of any app, and we couldn't load T3 Chat's pricing page or Quora's privacy policy that day.
Which Poe alternative fits how you used Poe?
| What you used Poe for | Where to move it | How it's metered there |
|---|---|---|
| Asking several models the same question | ChatHub | 1,500 advanced queries a month on Pro |
| Frontier models at the makers' prices | OpenRouter | Each provider's list price, plus 5.5% when you buy credits |
| Free GPT and Claude chats | Duck.ai, or Morse Free | Duck.ai publishes no number; Morse Free is 15 messages a day |
| Claude Sonnet 5.5 or Grok 4.7 every day | Morse Pro | Unlimited Pro models, plus 250 credits a month for frontier models |
Choose Poe if you rely on its group chats of up to 200 people, its video and music bots, or its API, and choose Morse if you'd rather stop counting points on everyday models and keep your history in your own browser instead of on Quora's servers.
Start free with no card, or try a guest chat from the Morse home page before you cancel Poe.
Morse publishes this comparison. We've tried to keep it fair; if something's wrong or out of date, email hello@trymorse.ai.
Poe is a trademark of Quora, Inc. Morse is not affiliated with or endorsed by Quora, Inc.
Common questions
Is Poe the same thing as PoE, the Path of Exile game?
No. Poe is Quora's AI chat app at poe.com, and its help center asks writers to spell it "Poe", never "POE" or "PoE". Searching for "Poe AI" or "Quora Poe" helps separate the two.
Do Poe add-on points expire?
Yes. Poe's terms of sale say pre-purchased points "expire 1 year from the purchase date," and like all Poe points they are non-refundable and have no cash value.
Is Poe cheaper than paying for ChatGPT Plus and Claude Pro separately?
Poe's Purchases FAQ says it saves you money against separate $20 subscriptions and direct API use. Its API documentation also says Poe's intent is to charge "the same amount for model access that underlying model providers charge," so the saving depends on how many messages you send to which models.
Which model does Poe's free plan use?
Poe's Assistant bot sends a free user's general questions to GPT-6-Luna and a subscriber's to GPT-6.1-Sol, according to its description on Poe's Explore page. Free users can pick some other bots too, paid for from the daily points Poe gives non-paying users.